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READ WHAT THE OTHERS SAY ! .......Reproductions of articles published by leading boating and fishing magazines.
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Re-produced from
the Editorial on page 7 of January/February 1998 issue of Boat
Fishing
Copyright Boat
Fishing Magazine.
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THE WAY OF THE FUTURE
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I SPEND a bit of time in boats.
A lot of these boats are relatively small, since most of my fishing
is either estuary or inshore work. I honestly can't think of
too many places I'd rather be than up some skinny creek in a
tinny. But being there and fishing there are two different things.
For maximum success, you have to have a boat designed for the
job in hand..
I recently spent a week fishing the creeks and estuaries around Seisia, in Cape York. Some of the water up there has to be seen to be believed - huge estuary systems with feeder creeks snaking back inland for miles and miles, vast expanses of flats, islands, lagoons, rivers ... It's a boat fisherman's heaven.
Much of this water is accessible by your run-of-the-mill tinny. That said, a standard tinnie isn't necessarily the best tool for the job. The local guides favor stable, shallow draft boats controlled by tiller steer outboards. The shallow draft is required due to the vast number of sand bars and rock shelves exposed by the region's raging tides - a lot of conventional boats would be unable to access the best spots simply because they draw too much water.
I spent all of my time fishing with Ian McConnell, of Cape York Rod & Rifle Safaris. Ian runs a 5m Ally Craft punt with a Yamaha 40 bolted to the back. With the Yammie trimmed right up, the "Barra Explorer" scoots along in extremely shallow water. Fishing the good holes in the Jardine River, with its treacherous sand bars and flats, would be impossible for a boat that couldn't operate in shallow water.
While the "Barra Explorer" is excellent for fishing the creeks, rivers and flats, it comes a little undone when the water gets rough. Being essentially a flat bottomed punt with a bit of vee up near the nose, the boat didn't ride that well in any sort of swell. We found this out when a howling nor-wester sprang up while we were fishing for trevally and queen fish behind an island. We poked our nose out to be greeted by white caps and a metre of chop. A fair bit of that chop came over the bow before we made it into the safety of the Jardine.
So what does a bloke like Ian do? Sacrifice his shallow water capability for a standard deep vee hull or concentrate on the estuary fishing leaving all those GT's, macks, and tuna, for the days when it's dead flat?
As a professional guide, you can't limit yourself to one sort of fishing, but then you also have to consider the safety and comfort of your clients. The average recreational angler faces much the same problems. Do you buy a boat made for a specific fishing task or do you compromise?
Well, Ian compromised, but in a very interesting way. Instead of going for a conventional craft, he decided to invest in a long boat. These long skinny craft are used extensively in the South Pacific Islands, where they're known as "banana boats". Long Boats look a bit like canoes and are not particularly popular in Australia. This is probably something that will change in the coming years as long boats have many advantages for keen boat fishermen. As a start, they have fantastic open water capabilities, are stable, boast heaps of room, run well with small outboards, can carry huge loads and are relatively inexpensive to buy and run. A point that Ian considered very important was that long boats have an extremely shallow draft
Ian chose to buy a 19-foot fiberglass long boat, custom made by the Stinger factory in Brisbane. Boat Fishing featured a test on a Stinger back in last years March / April edition. Yamaha also builds a long boat, called the UB Southwind. Ian's guiding colleague the legendary Gary Wright, has operated out of a Southwind for-some years. Top NT guide Russell Kenny also operates a long boat, a 6m Quintrex Challenger. Dick Eusson profiles this boat in this issue.
The Stinger features a somewhat more sophisticated hull than the Southwind and Ian has worked closely with the Stinger factory to design a boat that can operate as a hardcore fishing platform yet, still retain good levels of comfort and room for paying clients. Initially, Ian will run the Stinger with his Yammie 40, but he's pretty keen on a four-stroke. Probably a Honda 50.
Before deciding on the Stinger long boat avenue, Ian spent months researching his options. Like all good fishing guides, Ian is a pretty canny fellow. Ordering the Stinger wasn't a decision he took lightly. I've always been of the opinion that what's good for the experts is equally good for the amateurs.
I guess I'll have to head back up there at some stage to see how good it is.
JIM HARNWELL
JANUARY,'FEBRUARY 1998 Boat Fishing page 7
Copyright Boat Fishing Magazine
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Re-produced
from an article written by Gary Howard appearing on P 58 , 59
of Qld Fishing Monthly February 1997
Copyright Queensland
Fishing Monthly.
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BOATING
NEWS
STINGER - 723 LONG BOAT
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FOR a few years now the Australian market has seen the slow introduction of Longboats into our waterways. ....Their uses vary from commercial fishing and charter interests to private fishing boats.....The asian and South Pacific region are home to hundreds of longboats where economical, simple and efficent hulls are capable of carrying large loads over long distances and are able to handle rough conditions should they arise. I suppose they are big like an oversize canoe - long and narrow, but somewhat more stable.
Anyone that has seen documentries on the islands of the South
pacific and the New Guinea region would most likely recall seeing
a few of these boats carry big payloads of stores and fuel up
rivers and between islands.
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The flared bow aids in the ride
and diverts spray away from the hull - note the full length planing
strakes.
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 The Stinger Longboats have proven themselves in Pacific Islands and New Guinea and are now available in Australia. They have a good load carrying capacity and handles rough conditions well. |
It's surprising that larger numbers
of these boats haven't found their way onto the Australian market
a lot sooner. In time, as more users are found here for them
and more of the boating fraternity becomes aware of these boats,
we will no doubt see many more on our waterways.
Murray James of Stinger Boats, lived and built his long boats
in New Guinea for many years before moving to Australia. Over
300 were produced for commercial and private use in Nuw Guinea
and the Torres Straights.
In this environment the boats have a pretty hard life and lack
the care and maintenance that we would normally give our boats.
That the boats have endured this is a good indication of the
quality and strength of these boats.
Stinger boats come in two sizes the 723 which is
7.1 metres (23'4") and the , 619 which is 5.79 metres(19').
Both boats have a beam of 1.86m (6'2").
As with the standard style long boats the Stingers are long and
narrow. The Stinger boats basically have a flat bottom on a level
plane giving a large surface area to displace the weight of heavy
loads. It also provides a large planing surface, allowing the
boat to plane with minimal horsepower and maintain planing speeds
it low revs.
The large flat surface of the hull ensures the stability of the
boat while travelling and on the move. To aid with the performance
of' the hull full length planning strakes have been added which
not only improve the lift but make driving the boat a lot easier
and safer.
Constructed of fibreglass, the under floor section sees a network
of fibreglass girders which provide exceptional structural strength.
These criss cross the length and beam of the bull and have closed
cell polyurethane foam blocks fitted in the many quadrants formed
by the network of' bearers. On top of this, a fibreglass floor
is fitted giving you a completely scaled flotation area underneath
the floor.
As all the stringers are made of fibreglass there are no worries
about rotting. The transom does have marine ply in it to ensure
rigidity and strength and this is enveloped in several layers
of glass to ensure no water enters.
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While only small, the centre console accommodates all the necessary essentials and allows room for anglers to walk either side.
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The centre console is located a
little back from amidships leaving a large forward deck area
for loads, but better still a hugh area for several anglers to
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There is little doubt to the strength of the boat and a test
out on Moreton Bay in choppy conditions soon pointed out the
Stinger Boat had a few attributes that make it even more attractive.
For the test run we had four adults on board amounting to some
380 kg which while nowhere the load capacity of 1200 kg was enough
to give some indication of stability.
Heading out the Brisbane River the first thing that I expected
when we met the chop was for the bow of the boat to start bouncing
around everywhere. Especially when the four of us were behind
the centre console and there was no weight up the how apart foim
an anchor and a bit of rope and safety gear.
The porpoising effect that you would expect to experience in
these conditions in most boats was almost non existent. The length
of the boat is such that it skips over the top of the waves and
the beam is narrow enough that the hull doesn't burry in any
bigger waves.
The boat actually performed better in the rough conditions at
planing speed than slower speed. A following, head on and quartering
sea were all attacked handling them admirably and safely.
While the flared bow deflects quite a bit of spray we still got
wet, especially on the quartering sea, but it is only a centre
console and it was rather windy.
For those that have seen a long boat you may have noted that
the sides are quite low. All four of us stood on one side of
the boat side onto the sea and while I don't recommend that you
do this it was obvious that the boat could handled the uneven
distribution of weight without putting us in danger,
As mentioned earlier the hull requires minimal horsepower and
the 90 hp Mercury on the transom had no trouble whatsoever getting
the boat up and going, with no bow high attitude.
Flat chat
the boat hits speeds around fifty miles and hour, still retaining
its stability and handling characteristics.
The layout is very simple with the centre console a little back
from amidships, storage hatch and anchor well at the bow. Down
the aft end of the boat a seat runs from side to side, in it
more storage and a fiberglass fuel tank.
There are of course cleats, towing eyes, bow roller and rails
around the boat, but basically it is an open work boat. The self
draining deck allows the deck to be kept clean and excess water
that finds its way in rough conditions can quickly escape.
Stinger Boats are well presented, and being Brisbane based, they
can make minor changes and additions to suit individual needs.
For more inquires or a test run contact Stinger Boats on (07) 3200 0272 |
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LONG LEAN and TOUGH
THERE'S never been a wider variety
of boats to choose between
when it comes to serious fishing, and the Stinger is another
style to add to your list for consideration. Proven in the tropical
waters of PNG and the Torres Strait where some 300 of the boats
are used, the Stinger Longboat is an unsinkable, shallow draft
flyer with sea-kindly handling and plenty of room for hardcore
angling.
Re-produced from an article written by Graham Lloyd in Boat Fishing P 50, 51, 52
March / April edition 1997.
Copyright Boat Fishing March / April 1997
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MAIN PHOTO. The Stinger slipped
along easily and handled quite windy and sometimes choppy conditions
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Now being built in Brisbane, the
Stinger is available in a 5.9m version as well as in the .7.
I m length that Boat Fishing took for a run. Both sizes are made
in three models from the basic Workboat through the Fisherman
and on to the Classic. All use the same hull design and construction,
with variations in equipment and options.
Indicative of their inbuilt strength and seaworthiness, Stingers
are used for coastal surveillance and rescue activities - the
Tully Coast Guard in North Queensland being one Organisation
that has purchased a Stinger for this type of work.
While the boats could be quite at home in other activities, they
are born and bred for fishing. The style is tough and simple
with no unnecessary frills. just the essentials for getting out
where they're biting.
Design & layout.
The Stinger is based on a traditional "longboat" design with an easily-driven slender hull. There's a flat section g up the centre of the undersides with strakes either side and sections angling up at about 12.5 degrees to quite narrow chines. The forward sections break into a fine entry that keeps the ride softer than you'd expect, and the hull sides lift toward the bow with extra depth and flare to deflect spray and to provide added buoyancy. The flat aft sections keep the draft shallow, and contribute to good lateral stability, and are also a factor in quite high speeds (and fast, economical cruising) for a given level of power.
It's a different and interesting design that works well.
Essentially the Stinger is a big open boat with a helm console located aft. On our "Classic" test rig, there's a moulded aft seat that runs the full width of the boat with hatches for access to storage below. There's an insulated icebox under the seat, too. Plus the fibreglass fuel tank. Behind the seat is the engine well - also full width and capable of taking twins, and either side the gun'ls are topped with stainless grab rails over stainless cleats. A drop-down stainless ladder is mounted on the transom. Big 44mm scuppers in the aft cockpit floor will quickly self-drain any waters that come onboard.
The console sits amidships with quite good passages to port and starboard that make it easy and safe to move forward where there's a big open area to do with as you will.
Marine carpet aides a non-slip grip. Small sub frames provide support to the hull sides and project marginally into the boat. Up front is another seat over a storage area, with an open anchor locker right in the bow. A stainless guard rail runs from above the stem and aft down the gun'ls for about a third the length of the boat
Under the floor is concealed a cross girder design that forms a series of bays which are filled with closed cell polyurethane foam blocks for positive flotation. There's more foam in the gunl's as well. All fiberglass construction avoids any long term problems with rot(the two layers of marine ply used for strength in the transom are fully encapsulated for protection too), and the result is a structure that the factory claims to have "immense strength"
I saw nothing to indicate otherwise.
DRIVING :
The wheel and throttle were at a good height and reach for me, with the angle of the wheel also working well. Standing behind the screen gave protection against the brisk breeze and occasional spray. There's plenty of panel space for instruments, and we had a tacho, speedo, trim and fuel gauges with a Richie compass and a Lowrance X70A sounder. Sight lines to the gauges were partially obstructed by the wheel rim, but I'm sure positioning could be adjusted to suit anyones particular needs. As well as two levels of storage accessible from the driving position, there's a big hatch in the front of the console for getting into more storage space and to the under-dash wiring. Brackets are provided to mount radios under the "T" Top where they'd be easily reached but out of the way. |
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..........The Merc 90 was new but had no trouble whisking the Stinger on plane. Handling is good although a bit different to most boats. I think the multiple strakes along the largely flat hull give a combination that holds on tight. and yet the comparatively narrow hull makes it lively and responsive.
We had a near full load of fuel plus three crew aft around the helm and, perhaps because of that rearward weight bias, the Stinger seemed to prefer the Merc to be kept trimmed in reasonably tight. Trimming out lifted the bow and made it seem a bit "floatv", although I suspect a longer session at the wheel would give a skipper a better feel for optimum trim position. On a real fishing trip. there'd be more weight forward as gear (on the way out) and fish (on the wav back) were stowed, and that would be when you might use higher angles for the outboard.
Even so, with the Merc kept closely trimmed , the Stinger swept along smoothly and the hull felt nicely balanced. Driving was highly enjoyable, with an impressive view out along the length of the hull. Turns were smooth both ways. With the Hvdrive Skipper Series 2 hydraulic steering keeping effort on the Wheel rim nice and light.
The Mercury 90 is a 1386cc three-cylinder power plant that spins to 55OOrpm. Triple carbs and loopcharged induction help the smooth-running Merc and it had no trouble pushing the Stinger to a top of 62kph (as indicated on our hand-held GPS) at 5400 rpm.
Intermediate cruise speeds were 32 kph at 3500 rpm and 47 kph at 4500 rpm - all quite commendable from 90 hp on a 7.lm hull. The Stinger is rated to 115hp if you want more speed. but I felt the 90 was about the optimum match for the boat.
Summary
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.............The Stinger is a straightforward boat that knows exactly what it's built to do - to go fishing where conditions could be far from ideal. It will get you there quickly, take care of you while you're concentrating on the task in hand, and then take you safely home afterwards. Its shallow draft can be used to advantage in shoal waters, and its open layout allows plenty, of scope to fish the wav you want. The style and finish are quite simple, but still effective and appropriate. If required, the boats can be built to survey standards, and the company is also willing to accommodate a degree of customisation if you have some special ideas or preferences. As tested, the Stinger 723 Classic retails ex-Brisbane for $29,755 on a trailer and ready to run with the 90 Mercury. Pricing starts at around S9,450 for the boat itself, and you could add power and options to suit your budget. The smaller 619 version starts at $8,700. For more information,
Call Stinger Boats on (07) 3200 0272.
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Reproduced
from an article published in "Saltwater Fishing, Issue 17,
Summer 1999, copyright "Saltwater Fishing Australia" |
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STINGER 619-E
FISHERMAN
The Stinger 619-E is a prime
example of the traditional Japanese longboat with a moderate deadrise hull that planes
cleanly at only 12kts!
The 619-E measures 5.79 metres by only 1.86, the same beam as Quintrex's old 4.27
metre Fishabout runabout.
The hull weight is 390 kilos. It has a nicely swept sheer, Japanese clipper-style stem, reasonable topsides flare forward and a pro-
nounced spray knuckle just beneath the gunwale.
Combined with a broad planing plank aft with rounded keels either side of it and the forward
planing strakes, the long planing surface helps lift the hull out of the hole.
For example, the 619-E test hull provided by Hunter Valley fishing tours specialist 'There
Back and Beyond'" was powered by a hefty Honda BF75 and had its centre console located aft of amidships to open up the for-
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Although this concentrated weight further aft than I woud have liked, fitted with a transom wedge the Honda planed o ir 800 kilo total (including two adults and fishing tackle) at only 11.9kts on 3000 revs spinning a 17-inch pitch alloy prop. There was absolutely no need to fit a foil on the antiventilation plate.
By 4000 revs we were cruising quietly at 21.2kts and with the
motor left at neutral trim the hull could be put through tight
figure of eights with no sign of prop ventilation. Because of
its narrow beam the hull banked steeply through the turns but
always felt completely in control and the mechanical steering
was reasonably light and direct.
Despite the windage of a full height clear windscreen and stainless
steel-framed T-Top, at Wide Open Throttle and 5800 revs my Lowrance
GlobaINav 200 GPS showed 31.7kts.
Driven over a 25cm chop at WOT the hull rode softly and felt strongly built in the underfloor area. And then we ventured out through Swansea Heads on Lake Macquane NSW the hull had plenty of lift forward to ride over the confused slop and rolling ocean swells to 1.5 metres while it maintained 10 - 11 kts on 3000 revs. Some spray came aboard amidships but none forward. Beam-on to the seas the hull rolled like a roundbilger but rapidly stiffened up approaching the gunwale area.
Downwind in these seas the torque of the Honda easily kept us
on the back of the waves and when I deliberately leapt us off
one wave face into the back of the one ahead the hull showed
no sign of broaching. And when it did bury in the wave the flared
shoulders forward simply lifted the hull over the wave crest
and threw spray away from the hull. It was the most fun I've
had offshore for a long time!
Back in calm waters the hull showed its ability to handle up
to three adults fishing from one side, though freeboard aft was
somewhat limited.
The 619-E Fisherman has a clean cockpit layout. From the foredeck
to single motor well area the self-draining, flowcoated deck
is completely level and there's plenty of room either side of
the centre console to walk around it. Forward are a bow roller
and open anchor well and aft of this three mooring cleats and
two rod holders. Set into the forward end of the deck moulding
was a shielded fluoro light.
Between the foredeck area and centre console the owner had fitted
two swivelling and foldingback sets for passengers. The centre
console itself carried the 100 Iitre fibreglass fuel tank with
a translucent panel to show fuel level. Above this was a flat
space accessed via a hinge down hatch in the console's forward
side.
The lower aft end of the console was open for storage behind
the fuel tank, while the dash area would easily accommodate a
sounder and GPS/plotter. The owner had installed a lockable stainless
steel box under the strongly-framed T-Top to hold a radio and
other gear. The top mounted single lever control box for the
Honda and the almost vertical steering wheel were well positioned
in relation to one another.
A nice touch was the fibreglass leaning seat with nonskid surface aft of the centre console which also contained a storage bin. Either side of the motor well was a live bait tank with outwards-opening hatch, a rod holder and a mooring cleat, outboard of which was a short side rail. Under the well was space for a battery either side or a battery and oil tank.
Overall the quality of mouldings and gelcoat finish was very
good.
As tested on a drive-on braked single axle multiroller trailer this rig retails for about $25,000.
With a full tank of fuel the all-up towing weight is about 1050
kilos and within the capabilities of a large four cylinder car.
For more on the 619-E Fisherman contact the manufacturer on
07 3200 0272.
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Reproduced from article published in July/August 1998 Boat Fishing pp 40-41
Photo scanned from original magazine.
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LONGER IS BETTER
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For professional charter operators on Cape York, this big long boat is about to take much of the sting out of fuel bills.
Ron Calcutt reports:
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IN HIS January/ February 1998 Editorial. our editor suggested that he might need to head back to Cape York to check out a new Stinger Long Boat his guides were ordering. Knowing how much Jam hates to travel to exotic destinations, I got hold of that boat before it left Brisbane so he wouldn't have to subject himself to that hardship. It's really good to have mates like me.
These days long boats are steadily gaining acceptance in the guided fishing industry, and that is happening for a number of reasons. Funny as they might look with their banana shape and over the top length to beam ratio, the long boats are surprisingly good sea boats, and at the same time can float over a patch of damp sand.
Cape York fishing guides Gary Wright and lan McConnell cater for all sorts of sport fishing, but find themselves guiding more and more for saltwater fly rodders these days. The boat as you see it here still had some gear to go onto it when delivered, including a poling platform on the command station at the stern. and a bunch of special rod holders that would slot into the uprights used in the side rails.
Although this one has been set up as a professional guide boat. there are lots of elements here that apply equally to sport fishing enthusiasts.
LAYOUT
The Stinger 723 is 7. 10 X 1.86m, with an insignificant draft of just 0.18m. You can easily break this boat up into the simple part and the complicated part. The simple part is the greater portion of the boat that has been given over to work space. The complicated part is the command station at the back that also houses most of the bulk storage.
Let's deal with the easy bit first. Without having to use up much boat space at all, the foredeck is reasonably large and houses a good rope locker and another storage space that can gobble up lots of wet Weather gear and the like.
Something I like about these boat is that they have a 'lot of flotation material packed in under the coamings which helps to keep a swamped boat floating. The entire work area is devoid of fittings other than four central boxes on which swivel seats have been mounted for the passengers. The under seat storage houses life jackets. A viable option here would be to run a bench style seat down the centre over a low profile Fish/ice box. You could also have the whole space completely clear.
When I first looked at the helm setup over that great bridge type affair aft I figured you could develop some sensations of insecurity perched up there but later in some fairly substantial swells I admit to wondering why I hadn't thought of a beaut idea like this myself it's just great !
The helm is pretty basic with just the standard engine gauges, a compass and room to mount a sounder. The skipper has some storage under for personal .gear, but there's nothing flash about it.
Naturally, all that space contained in the bridge structure has been put to maximum use as a big live well and a fish box that can hold bigger fish than 1 ever catch There's also space for fuel and batteries and if the live well is not being used as a live well. it also acts as a bulk storage area.
The hull self drains through non return ball scuppers and also has over sized bungs plus large overflows for the live bait system.
Boats don't get much simpler than this, yet this craft does everything required of it and remains a very clean and clear fishing platform for serious operators.
PERFORMANCE
The choice of a 50hp Yarnaha fourstroke caused the potential owner to have one or two restless nights. He understood the theory of long boat hull design and that a small motor should work well, but it still feels pretty funny telling a builder to put a 50hp engine on the back of a 7.10m boat.
It feels a bit funny the first time you drive this rig. After a million and one outboard rides in conventional hulls where you plant the power and blow the hull out of the hole, you do the same thing with this boat and it just surges quietly forward not very fast at all. The thing is that it keeps on surging and gathering speed, and in no time at all you are backing off to find your cruising rev range. The power range for this hull is 40 90hp but I couldn't imagine having anything better on the back than the 50hp Yammie fitted to this boat. Ultra quiet, incredibly smooth and delivering a top cruise of 24 knots at 5500rpm I found it very comfortable at 4000 4500.
We had four men on the boat for the test run and the 50 lifted this load out of the hole comfortably. Or perhaps it is not entirely correct to talk about coming out of the hole with this hull. It is more of a gradual flat rise, as you go forward. That four stroke loads up for a bit as it works the hull up to speed, then you simply feel the friction let go and the boat takes off .
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The underside of the boat sports unusually pronounced strakes starting at the stem and running the full length of the hull. I can believe the builder's claim that those trap air which lubricates the hull and reduces friction. The boat feels as if it is doing things very easily.
We picked a dandy little day to run this boat, with heavy rain and lots of squalls about. It was not the sort of day you'd choose to go outside fishing, and out of respect for those wearing clothes they would have to work in for the rest of the day 1 settled for a quiet potter just off the entrance rather than push the envelope and take the inevitable saltwater shower this would involve.
Long boats cause people to wonder if they will be able to rise into steep seas and run true ahead of following seas. 1 was impressed with the way this hull rose into some reasonably ugly wind swells. and when I backed the power off and left it sitting deep in the same area it just bobbed around like a cork. The strakes come into play downhill to give this boat excellent directional stability.
A self drainer with good capacity to clear water through non return ball scuppers backed up by bilge pumps, 1 would have felt quite comfortable about taking this boat for a long run in rough water. 1 liked the high driving position, and 1 have to say that the boat had been beautifully set up with a feather light helm and excellent gear shift and throttle control.
This is a particularly versatile boat. It can ghost around in very shallow water without a problem, then head off out to sea and handle dismal conditions. I can tell you you won't need all of your five fingers to count up the number of hulls around that could do that !
JULY/AUGUST 1998 BOAT FISHING 41
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